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This forum is for Christians to dialogue about non-denominational and inter-denominational issues including various Christian doctrines, canon law, and praxis.

This forum is also for Jews, Christians, Muslims, atheists and people of other religions to engage in a positive inter-faith dialogue about both our common ground and our differences so that we might increase in our charity, compassion, and understanding with one another.

To help people in open forums wrestle with the idea of faith, Brian McLaren suggests that we focus on essentials and not debate minutiae - rather than old earth versus young earth, we should wrestle with larger issues.

The primary purpose of dialogue is to learn. In debate winning is the goal. In dialogue finding commonground is the goal.

A final note to Christians: A gracious, tasteful, thoughtful answer, even when expressing profound disagreement, is far more compelling than the unkind response which reeks of defensiveness or arrogance.
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Unread postby musicmonkey » Wed Oct 19, 2005 7:54 pm

We Seek Dialogue Over Debate
Last updated: May 24, 2006

This is an online community with people from all walks of life and at all different phases in their spiritual journey. Respect, a willingness to listen, a posture of openness, and common courtesy go a long way.

"Even if you're right, you're wrong if you're not humble."

LEOAB Forums is holistic and ecumunical in nature and seeks dialogue over debate; love and grace over legalism; tollerance over intollerance. We believe that the Great Commission requires The Great Commandment. Even if you're right, you're wrong if you're not humble.

We don't give easy answers to the BIG ISSUES of life, tread the fine line between law + grace and between truth + love, dislike "fluffy" pat answers, cliches + Christianese, + strive to not seek so much to be be understood as to UNDERSTAND. [This has been a central focus of LEOAB since our inception in 2001]

"As Christians, we must never approach truth except in a spirit of love."

As Christians, we must never approach truth except in a spirit of love. And we must never approach love except in a spirit of truth. Jesus wasnÂ’t 50% love and 50% truth. Jesus is 100% love and 100% truth.

Just as a bird needs two wings to fly, so Christians need two wings to soar in their Christian lives. The one wing is love and the other wing is truth.

How To Dialogue

The primary purpose of dialogue is to learn; that is, to change and grow in the perception and understanding of reality, and then to act accordingly. In inter-religious dialogue, each participant must come to the dialogue with no hard-and-fast assumptions as to where the points of disagreement are.

Debate is oppositional: two or more sides oppose each other and attempt to prove each other wrong. Dialogue is collaborative: two or more sides work together toward a common understanding.

"The primary purpose of dialogue is to learn. In debate winning is the goal. In dialogue finding commonground is the goal."

In debate one searches for the other positions flaws and weaknesses. In dialogue one searches for strengths in the other position. Debate creates a closed-minded attitude, a determition to be right. Dialogue creates an open-minded attitude, an openness to being wrong (i.e. black slavery, Christian Crusades, etc.) and an openness to change.

In debate winning is the goal. In dialogue finding commonground is the goal. Debate defends one's position as the best solution and excludes other positions. Dialogue opens up the possibility of reaching a better solution than any of the original solutions.

Debate assumes there is a right answer and that someone has it. Dialogue assumes many people have pieces of the answer and that together they can put them into a workable solution. Debate implies conclusion. Dialogue remains open-ended.

To dispute is to argue, debate, or quarrel angrily. The driving force is not a love for truth or for people, but anger and the determination to be right. A hot-tempered man stirs up dissension, but a patient man calms a quarrel (Proverbs 15:18).

Forum Requirements

Dialogue is often much harder to achieve than debate. However, dialogue is our goal. Posts that disrupt the peace and harmony of this forum will be deleted, moved or edited.

This includes posts that attack another member's beliefs, including but not limited to:

(a) posts that directly state or otherwise imply that another member is not a Christian;
(b) putting down or belittling any Christian group or denomination;
(c) posts that put down or belittles Christianity as a whole;
(d) and, in the case of our Interfaith Dialogue, posts that express or imply hatred towards Islam, Judaism, Muslims or Jews.

About Christian Doctrine & Interfaith Dialogue

This forum is for Christians to dialogue about non-denominational and inter-denominational issues including various Christian doctrines, canon law, and praxis.

To help people in open forums wrestle with the idea of faith, Brian McLaren suggests that we focus on essentials and not debate minutiae - rather than old earth versus young earth, we should wrestle with larger issues.

This forum is also for Jews, Christians and Muslims to engage in a positive inter-faith dialogue about both our common ground and our differences so that we might increase in our charity, compassion, and understanding with one another.

A note to Christians: A gracious, tasteful, thoughtful answer, even when expressing profound disagreement, is far more compelling than the unkind response which reeks of defensiveness or arrogance.

Lord, reform your church, beginning with me!

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